Remus Hexacone

[ziobato]

A cheaper way to black wheels is to powder coat your ones.

[hoonu]

A cheaper way to black wheels is to powder coat your ones.

And in that area: Do you have to remove the wheel bearings to have that done, or just remove the brake discs?

[ziobato]

Just removing discs.
The wheel bearings has been properly protected by the coating factory.

[deilenberger]

I would worry just a bit about the amount of heat used to fuse the power-coat paint.. it would seem to probably be more than bearings are designed to take..

[hoonu]

I guess I may have to inquire. My local coater hasn't done anything that large for me in the past, OR anything that's potentially heat fragile.

[ziobato]

The reply I gave comes from the coater I applied to get a quotation (my wheels are actually painted, but I planned to powder coat them next winter, because of better scratch resistence).

Friends that have done the job just protecting bearings, tell that, in order to avoid any problem , the heat has been reduced to from 130 to 80 celsius (176 F) and, after one year of daily use, nothing happened.

[atldinan3]

ziobato where did you get the black head covers for your bike? Did you have them custom done or is there a way to purchase them already done?

I'd like to "black out" as much of the chrome/silver on my bike as possible. I'm going to heat wrap the headers and exhaust first and then I'd love to do something about those shiny silver nuts hanging out the side!

[ziobato]

Custom made... just painting the original head covers at local car bodywork&paint shop... (easy and cheap)

[FCADAVID]

The Remus sounds really great on a bike I tried. I´m thinking in getting one for my bike if is not wrong with the guarantee. It does not harm the engine?

[atldinan3]

(Bringing this thread back to life....)

Ive recently gotten my full system installed: Remus header, connector pipe and Hexacone muffler. Here are some thoughts:

With the baffle in, its not as loud as I would have expected. It sounds nice, and DEFINITELY better than stock (IMHO). However it still doesnt have the sportbike sound that I love. (I know, I know, its a BMW twin and not a Japanese four). The way I can think to best put it is that it sounds more like I would expect a GS to sound. Kinda off-roadish I guess...? Its somewhat misleading and quite retro sounding (like the Beemers of times gone by).

Obviously I'm not an expert in putting sounds to words, so I'll quote my riding buddy who spent a week with me before the Remus was installed. After the installation and I cranked it he stated "Holy crap, now it sounds like a REAL bike!" (referring to the excessing quietness of the stock system). Then after a few seconds of listening, he states "Wow, sounds different from other bikes. So thaaats what a Beemer really sounds like."

I have yet to take the baffle out. So I have no comments on that part.

Looks wise, I LOVE it!! Removing the giant, bright, silver cannon made a huge difference visually. I was surprised at how much smaller it is - at first glance it almost looks funny on the bike because it makes such a big difference. I also like the rear view, especially when the system cases are covering the sides.

Removing the stock headers, cross pipe, cat and muffler made a pretty big weight difference. (I dont know the exact numbers). I decided to heat wrap the headers all the way down to the joint for the connector because I really like that look. I've got a buddy who is rebuilding a /5 and he's allll into the retro styling. He and I came up with the idea of adding some of the old school styling back to the r1200r and this was one of the ways we did it. Its not a huge difference but its interesting, definitely unique and theoretically traps a horsie or two.

Anyway, thats my $0.02. I've posted some pics up for ppl to check out. Please excuse the poor quality of the pics - my digital camera was stolen so these are from my camera phone.

Cheers

http://picasaweb.google.com/tlovejr/R12 ... OfJuly2008

[celticus]

That is a good look for our bike. What kind of windshield is that you have on there?
Mark

[ziobato]

What kind of windshield is that you have on there?
Mark

Better quality pictures are... mandatory.

[atldinan3]

In regards to the windshield, and any other mods, here is what I have done:

* 2008 R1200R, Black w/ OEM retro stripes
* System cases, w/ custom retro striping to match the factory stripes
* Black-outs on the blue part of the roundels (HUGE visual improvement on a black bike)
* Remus headers (sans cat), exhaust wrapped in black for retro look (and mild, mild functionality)
* Remus Hexacone carbon fiber exhaust
* K&N filter to go with full Remus upgrade
* MRA SpeedScreen (black), basically the same as the OEM sport screen except 1/2 the price (imported by Twisted Throttle)
* CeeBaileys soft bags for system cases (total disappointment)
* K1200R mirrors
* Factory stuff: ABS, compooter, center stand, heated grips, clear lights

In regards to better quality pics, I think that is a great idea. I suggest we take up a collection to buy me a new camera (since my last one was stolen). I'd buy it myself but the new bike (and recent downsizing) has left me "bike-poor".

[atldinan3]

Also, I rode the bike last night after posting and had a few more thoughts on my review for the Hexacone:

[*]On the highway it is still very quiet. Its noticeable, but in a good way. Not obnoxious or overpowering at all.
[*]You can hear the most sound on city roads in 1st - 3rd.
[*]One of my favorite features is that it "gurgles back" when downshifting and a few other points in the driving game. It adds a nice gruff style to the bike.

In regards to that last point, as well as someone elses question about whether or not its necessary to do any re-tuning, I asked the same questions to my dealer and he said "No". He states that Remus full systems are matched to the factory bike specs and do not require "engine remapping". That was good because it saves some money for con$umers like us, as well as time for installation.

The only question it leaves me is how much additional power is actually being generated. As a comparison, over the years I've owned several Bimmers and have done quite a few different mods. The "premier" (debatably) aftermarket performance vendor for Bimmers is Dinan. They have a ecu flash that matches each one of the hardware upgrades. So if you get a cold air intake then, in order to get the most performance from it, you should also get the Stage I software that does a slight remapping of the engine in order to accommodate the increase in air flow. If you get an exhaust then you get a Stage II. Etc.etc. So, while I fully trust Remus and Motorrad, it leaves me wondering how they are really pulling max performance without "informing" the computer of the change.

Its my understanding that Akrapovic systems DO require a remapping.

[deilenberger]

The only question it leaves me is how much additional power is actually being generated. As a comparison, over the years I've owned several Bimmers and have done quite a few different mods. The "premier" (debatably) aftermarket performance vendor for Bimmers is Dinan. They have a ecu flash that matches each one of the hardware upgrades. So if you get a cold air intake then, in order to get the most performance from it, you should also get the Stage I software that does a slight remapping of the engine in order to accommodate the increase in air flow. If you get an exhaust then you get a Stage II. Etc.etc. So, while I fully trust Remus and Motorrad, it leaves me wondering how they are really pulling max performance without "informing" the computer of the change.

Its my understanding that Akrapovic systems DO require a remapping.

Theoretically - with dual O2 sensors, the system should automatically adjust to more air flowing through the engine (which is all intake and exhaust can do..) How well it does that is limited by the adaptation parameters built into the ECU maps. The other factor - the O2 sensors are really only in-circuit as far as I know at steady-state operation, the acceleration mixture is controlled by mapping in the ECU and the O2 sensor signal is ignored.

Does anyone make a re-flash for the hexhead ECU? I haven't heard of any. One of the add-on companies, I believe Power Commander - does offer a hexhead kit, which interrupts the O2 signals and modifies them. It may have some option for lengthening the injection duty cycle overall which would result in a richer mixture.

It has been my experience with aftermarket intakes and exhaust on BMW bikes - testing them on a dyno - with A:B testing that I have never seen an overall performance improvement. At best I've seen a few HP at max RPM, sometimes accompanied by a loss of HP in the midrange. If you were close enough to get your bike to my friends dyno, I'd be really interested in doing some A:B comparisons. The dyno is in NJ (USA..)

[Graf]

Also, I rode the bike last night after posting and had a few more thoughts on my review for the Hexacone:

[*]On the highway it is still very quiet. Its noticeable, but in a good way. Not obnoxious or overpowering at all.
[*]You can hear the most sound on city roads in 1st - 3rd.
[*]One of my favorite features is that it "gurgles back" when downshifting and a few other points in the driving game. It adds a nice gruff style to the bike.

In regards to that last point, as well as someone elses question about whether or not its necessary to do any re-tuning, I asked the same questions to my dealer and he said "No". He states that Remus full systems are matched to the factory bike specs and do not require "engine remapping". That was good because it saves some money for con$umers like us, as well as time for installation.

The only question it leaves me is how much additional power is actually being generated. As a comparison, over the years I've owned several Bimmers and have done quite a few different mods. The "premier" (debatably) aftermarket performance vendor for Bimmers is Dinan. They have a ecu flash that matches each one of the hardware upgrades. So if you get a cold air intake then, in order to get the most performance from it, you should also get the Stage I software that does a slight remapping of the engine in order to accommodate the increase in air flow. If you get an exhaust then you get a Stage II. Etc.etc. So, while I fully trust Remus and Motorrad, it leaves me wondering how they are really pulling max performance without "informing" the computer of the change.

Its my understanding that Akrapovic systems DO require a remapping.

Akrapovic system does NOT require any remapping..........