Self-Cancelling Turn Signals

Post by **citrusbbee** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:42 pm

Okay, am I seeing things, or does my Rockster really have self-cancelling turn signals? Does anyone know more about this feature? The turn signal seems to blink 18-20 times before turning off. Is there a way to shorten or lengthen the time?
I'm a new Rockster owner and am loving this bike!!

fnfalman · Post by **fnfalman** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:13 pm

Yes, they do have self-cancelling signal lights. But like a typical BMW design feature, they require some soul searching in order to fathom how the darn thing works.

So far I've detected a pattern:

a. A very hard 90-degree turn will shorten the shut-off time.
b. Getting on the gas and accelerate hard and the blinkers will go off quicker. What's the RPM or speed range? I don't know yet. But I'm still trying to work on it.

big papa · Post by **big papa** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:42 pm

frikin' magic!

Lion_Lady · Post by **Lion_Lady** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:47 pm

The Rockster has the same odometer/speedo as the R1150S, which ALSO has the self-cancelling feature.

(I used to think it was magic too). Flashes for about 1/4 mile before cancelling.

P

Boxerpunk · Post by **Boxerpunk** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:58 pm

So far, I haven't detected a pattern at all.
The only thing I've discovered; if you want them to keep flashing, they stop flashing, if you want them to stop flashing, they keep flashing.
On my bike, there also seems to be a difference between the left turn signals (they stop flashing) and ones on the right (they keep flashing)

Post by **citrusbbee** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:12 pm

All I know is that it's distracting trying to watch that thing trying to figure it out while I'm making a turn. It doesn't seem to cancel if I've just signalled to change lanes. My dealer has their spring open house this coming weekend, and I'll ask one of the mechanics. These guys are good and I'm hoping they know more. I'll be sure to post my findings!

Post by **toner87** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:03 am

I just don't believe there's some distance sensor in there, or something that can detect a turn. I bet it's just on a timer... One of these days when I've got nothing better to do I'll figure it out...
T.

rockster.ch · Post by **rockster.ch** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:25 am

allegedly, the Swiss version has no self-cancelling indicators. I asked this and due to you officially needing to indicate for 500m before leaving the highway, it must indicate long enough

Lion_Lady · Post by **Lion_Lady** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:48 pm

toner87 wrote:I just don't believe there's some distance sensor in there, or something that can detect a turn. I bet it's just on a timer... One of these days when I've got nothing better to do I'll figure it out...
T.

NOT on a timer... Pay attention next time you're out. If you're doing 50/60 mph it will quit a lot faster than if you're doing 10/15 mph. And it WON'T cancel as long as you're sitting still.

P

Boxerpunk · Post by **Boxerpunk** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:52 pm

Lion_Lady wrote:...... And it WON'T cancel as long as you're sitting still.

P

Mine does !!!

Lion_Lady · Post by **Lion_Lady** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:12 pm

Boxerpunk wrote:
Lion_Lady wrote:...... And it WON'T cancel as long as you're sitting still.

P
Mine does !!!

Hmmmm. Maybe you're more patient than me?

MartyWadd · Post by **MartyWadd** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:43 pm

I have noticed a difference. The slower I'm going, the longer they flash. If I have the flashers on, and pull up to a stoplight, they'll cancel after about 15 secs.(20?) If I turn them back on again, they'll flash forever. Mine are clear, and they're much faster than the orange ones.

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Boxerpunk · Post by **Boxerpunk** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:22 pm

Lion_Lady wrote:
Boxerpunk wrote:
Lion_Lady wrote:...... And it WON'T cancel as long as you're sitting still.

P
Mine does !!!
Hmmmm. Maybe you're more patient than me?

Maybe the dutch traffic-lights force me to be more patient

Boxerpunk · Post by **Boxerpunk** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:27 pm

MartyWadd wrote:.. If I turn them back on again, they'll flash forever.

Yep, that's true.
That's why I always hit the switch twice; that also keeps them from self-cancelling.

Rog(UK) - Yorkshire Dales · Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:26 pm

I've been lurking here for the last couple of weeks and took delivery of an 04 Rockster last friday. My other bike is a 78 Moto Guzzi 'Convert' so I don't mind if you just smile sympathetically at me

Having said that, after riding the Rooster, I have an ear to ear smile. What a beautiful bike!

Re. the self cancelling indicators. I've read postings both here and on the R1150R forum and feel that it isn't a clear enough issue. Is vibration causing the indicators to cancel? Whatever the cause, I really do not want to ride a bike on which I am uncertain as to whether they cancel after 10 or 50 flashes. If the indicators flash 10 or 20 more times than I want them to, then I have just covered a very significant distance where some pilluck will pull out in front of me thinking that I am turning down a side road which may or may not be there.

It doesn't take much to cause an accident, does it? Three years ago, on a sunny afternoon, I was following a couple of cars, doing 60 ish, at three seconds - a decent gap considering that the other cars were following at one second intervals

A Range Rover wanted to turn across the stream of traffic and waited for the cars in front of me to pass, then calmly turned in front of me at zero feet....Exit one Moto Guzzi SP3!

No. Sorry. I don't want the unpredicatabillity of an indicator which clicks for 10; 20;30 or 40 times.

My intention is to wire in a small burgler alarm beeper so that I KNOW when the indicator is flashing.

Best wishes to all and safe riding...

Rog.

PS I've a feeling I saw Kev Foote posting on the forum. Hi Kev!

Post by **DJ Downunder** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:21 pm

Welcome aboard Rog...and congrats on the new bike.

Is vibration causing the indicators to cancel?

No that's not happening...and it's a very tricky thing..because if you're waiting a long time at a red light you don't want it to go off because it has flashed so many times..it needs to be on distance and that's why the Rockster has it (with it's electronic speedo) and the Roadster doesn't have it (with it's cable speedo).

btw...I often thought a beeper might be the way to go but I wear my iPod most of the time so I wouldn't hear it.

DJ

Post by **citrusbbee** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:40 pm

I was kinda excited when I first realized that the signals were self-cancelling. I used to have a little Kawasaki 440 LTD that had them, and they were excellent. Knew just when to turn them on, and they cancelled almost right out of the turn. I think I'll be pushing the button twice now so I don't have to think so hard about whether they've stopped blinking.

Rockiesrider · Post by **Rockiesrider** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:43 pm

Out for my first ride of the season yesterday (and only second on my Rockster)...and thought I was seeing things...(I did not know of the feature...)..so thanks to all who put their 2 cents in...now I can really drive myself crazy looking for the "Pattern"!

riceburner · Post by **riceburner** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:31 am

Rog(UK) - Yorkshire Dales wrote: Whatever the cause, I really do not want to ride a bike on which I am uncertain as to whether they cancel after 10 or 50 flashes. If the indicators flash 10 or 20 more times than I want them to, then I have just covered a very significant distance where some pilluck will pull out in front of me thinking that I am turning down a side road which may or may not be there.

Umm - so why not make sure you cancel them manually?

ranmar850 · Post by **ranmar850** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:04 am

Haven't you blokes and blokettes worked it out yet?

It is rpm related-at idle, sitting at the lights, they will go forever-unless you like to sit there revving , in which case they will cancel--above a certain RPM, seems to be approx 3,500, they cancel after 17 flashes-believe me, I have counted it a number of times.I should conduct a controlled experiment, find out exactly at what RPM the feature kicks in. If you signal intentions at speed well before you do the overtake or lane change, the interval is good-however, if you do it as an afterthought as you actually make the move, they do seem to go on too long......