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finally got a center stand...

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:01 pm
by darth_rockster
after 3 years i finally got a center stand. now i can clean the left side of the bike :lol:

Just wondering if anyone has noticed these

when unlocked and on the center stand the front end always seems to go to full left lock. Even If I turn it all the way right it likes to go left by itself. I have a stock front end, no risers or anything like that.

Also my front wheel is like and inch off the ground and my rear has some weight on it but not that much... i can lift it... Does this sound normal?

Thanks for any tips guys,
DR

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:13 pm
by \\Mike_Lea//
Can't answer your query, but I'd be interested to know if you fitted the center stand yourself? If so, was it an easy job?

I've thought about a center side too, esp. for longer term storage and as you say cleaning.

M :)

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:33 pm
by DJ Downunder
Mine will swing one way or the other..ussually the left ( the front wheel that is.. :wink: )

I find that with a full tank of fuel the front wheel touches down...and when low on fuel the rear wheel touches.

Sometimes it just seems to hover there with both wheels off the ground....nice one BMW.

Now you can check your oil level the normal way.. :D

DJ

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:39 pm
by duke
Full lock left, front 1 inch off the ground, not fuel dependant.


DJ - you have "Native" R1150R (as opposed to darth and any other Rockster) ... and your observation maybe 100% Roadster biased.

We will need more opinions on this to get a pattern.

P.S. Washing the rims is soooo easy with centre stand.

P.P.S. The more knowledgeable can confirm or deny if it burns less oil if left parked on centre stand as opposed to side stand.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:43 pm
by Lion_Lady
Another Ed 80 here.

My bike also goes "full lock left" when on the centerstand. :roll: :smt102

P

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:49 pm
by iowabeakster
you asked:

mine usually hangs to the left, sometimes right.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:58 pm
by MikeCam
Check the wire ties on the left and right cable bundles. Too tight, which leads to wiring breaks eventually, can also pull the tree around.

Also, North of the equator it will lean left but what about south of the equator? DJ's does not count!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:23 pm
by tourer
Mine does exactly as yours, it's normal

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:46 pm
by NoRRmad
Depends on how I zip up. :lol:

(I kill myself.)

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 10:55 pm
by darth_rockster
\Mike_Lea// wrote:Can't answer your query, but I'd be interested to know if you fitted the center stand yourself? If so, was it an easy job?
Hi Mike. Yeah I did it myself... It didn't seem too bad..

What I did was ordered all the parts on the parts fische over at maxbmwmotorcycles.com. I left out the bracket that the sidestand attaches too which was 107 bucks. The dealer had included that during an estimate once and I was psyched to find I already had that piece when i started comparing part numbers to the sidestand diagram. :P
I accidently ordered the fillister bolts and respective washers... seems i had all of those already too...could save another 6 or 7 bucks on those...
Also accidently orderd the piece the spring attaches too on the right side doh that was 12 bucks! Will try to return these items.

So I had to remove some bolt type bushings spacers for lack of a better name that the bmw I-don't-have-a-centerstand Lift hooks onto... I was a little concerned about loosening up things near the sidestand so I put the bike in a front wheel chock I got from powerstands.com. attached tie downs to the front fork. The chock is allright but it needs to be bolted down in my opinion... was a little wobbly! Someone mentioned they installed there centerstand without any type of lift or stand but since i had it I put it to use.

Installed the center stand and spacers, bolts with orings and the bmw sidestand/centerstand pivot grease... blue loctite didn't have 243 so used permatex 242 blue. torqued to 21nm...

Getting those springs on was a pain, seen a pick of someone stretching it and sticking pennies in between the coils but I finally decided to use the hook end of an auto brake spring tool and it was much easer...

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:04 pm
by darth_rockster
Ooh I liked the gas idea i didn't think of that but Full tank of gas and it's still on the back wheel. I do have a few degrees of an uphill in the garage from what I can tell with a cheap level but not really noticable. Sounds like it's normal...

The reason I ask about the left lock is because on some HD bikes I believe there was a test you did for the front fork bearings preload. At full right lock the fork should go left right left 3 times ending up near the middle...or something like that... probably with no cables attached... soemtimes you could get away with just lostening zip ties... so I thought i'd try it on the rockster and mine just seems to slam to the left once I let go :roll: I must have something that needs a little adjusting to check out....

Re: finally got a center stand...

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:02 am
by Ves
darth_rockster wrote:...
when unlocked and on the center stand the front end always seems to go to full left lock. Even If I turn it all the way right it likes to go left by itself. I have a stock front end, no risers or anything like that....
DR
Yeah, mine does this to. Not sure I like it, cause it is related to the wires/lines/cables. The only time it doesn't do it is when I leave my wires and cables completely loose, but that's not realistic.

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:09 am
by Lobo1625
I must say my Roadster does exhibits the same characteristics as every bike mentioned here. Full tank it sits on the front wheel, usually though it sits on the back. The wheel always goes to the left, but can stay to the right if i move it over there. My bike will also, sometimes, balance perfectly on the center stand. Must be the superior workmanship in the Black bikes.... :)

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:48 pm
by thenewcamus
another one dressed to the left and an inch off the ground here :wink:

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:10 pm
by Rog(UK) - Yorkshire Dales
Yes. Same here. Whenever I want to take a photo of UBU (my Rockster), I have to hunt around for a suitable size stone to wedge under the front wheel so that she stands nicely with the wheels aligned!

Rog

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:35 am
by riceburner
Poor obs the lot of you!!!


Has no-one noticed that the larger (and thus heavier) of the two lights is on the left????


;)




My bike sits with both wheels "just" touching the ground if the floor is absolutely level. Mind you - I DO have a GS length paralever arm on it. ;) (pulls the rear wheel down by nearly 2" )

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:44 am
by duke
Just a thought ...

One reason why Rocksters mostly sit on the rear tyre and are not affected by the full/empty tank syndrome:

Probably due to the fact that they carry wider rear rim and wider rear tyre ... that theoretically should be heavier enough to tip the bike backwards.

Just do not ask me for scientific proof.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:16 pm
by adg44
All the bikes didn't come with a center stand? :?:

I don't like that the leg sits between the foot peg and the shifter lever...

I was almost considering taking mine off.

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:07 pm
by Rog(UK) - Yorkshire Dales
It's a bit extreme having your leg taken off isn't it?

Rog

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:15 am
by darth_rockster
adg44 wrote:All the bikes didn't come with a center stand? :?:

I don't like that the leg sits between the foot peg and the shifter lever...

I was almost considering taking mine off.

I don't think the edition 80 came with center stand. Coming from a sportster... I wasn't smart enough to talke the dealer into including it :oops:

I thought the that lever was going to be a problem riding but I don't notice it... The only problem I have is trying to get my Kalahari boots in there without scratching anthing... they have that metal tipped toe that I'm thinking of removing now!