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New Moto Trivia Bike - BMW???

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:38 am
by dallara
Well, here's a new Moto Mania Trivia Bike for you folks to take a shot at...

And to make it more interesting, it's powered by a BMW/Rotax single! :shock:

292.5 lbs. (130 kg)...

654.88 cc (100 mm x 83 mm), DOHC 4-valve, 9.7:1 c/r, 52 mm Marelli Fuel Injection...

55 HP (40 kw) at 7,500 RPM... 5 speeds... Alloy tank & bodywork...

Under-engine exhaust... Ohlins shock... Big, conventional forks... Check out the intake airbox under the seat...

And you can buy one. Now, can anybody identify it?


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(some very minor re-touching was done to the pics to remove logos, etc.)


So, do you know what it is? Would you want one?

Cheers!

Dallara

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:52 am
by riceburner
I'm guessing it's a Harris or Tigcraft low-production specialist SOS (Sound of Singles) race-series based bike.

Nope, Riceburner...

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:36 am
by dallara
Nope, Riceburner...

Good try, but it is not a Harris or Tigcraft, nor is it a race-based bike. It is actually intended for pretty reasonable production numbers, and has a firm contract with both BMW and Rotax for the engines.

Some of the people involved in the project are very recognizable names (in motorcycling circles, anyway... :lol: ), and though most come from racing, some have been involved in other production motorcycles.

Now I don't want to throw anybody off the trail, but here's a hint... But don't think Australian... The company who is making this bike was heavily involved with John Britten at one point... And one member of the staff has strong, historical links with motorcycle GP racing...

Good luck!

Dallara

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:52 am
by new2BMW
Ha! I know this one.
That is the CR&S (Cafe Racers &Superbikes) "Vun" brought to you in part by Roberto Pattoni and Roberto Crepaldi.

That bike is going to be some serious fun.

Cheers dallara for pulling that one out of your hat. :)

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:33 am
by riceburner
It's a damned good use for the engine - whatever it is.

And with the F650 range rumoured to be shutting down I'm sure Rotax will be happy to have a further market for their single.

Well Done, New2BMW!!!

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:39 am
by dallara
Well done, New2BMW! :smt023

Outstanding! I really thought this one would go for a while, but you got it in only a couple of hours... Just goes to show this board has some of the sharpest motorcycle enthusiasts out there! =D>

Yep, it's the CR&S "Vun". Vun means "One" in an Italian Milanese dialect, and this has more menaing with htis bike than just a single-cylinder... Their mission concept is to make the rider "one" with the bike, and what they want to aim for is 250 GP bike handling in a "real world" useable package.

The one shown is CR&S's Vun 2.3... The 2.3 stands for the bikes power to weight ratio - i.e. 55 HP x 2.3 = 126.5 Kg (the bike actually weighs 130 Kg, but hey, close enough... :wink: ). More models are due down the pike.

You can see more of the bike, and find out more info at:

http://www.crs-motorcycles.com/

Again, kudos to you, New2BMW... And I hope you guys like the CR&S Vun.

Cheers!

Dallara

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:39 am
by R1150R in Africa
I wouldn't have had a clue what bike it is but what a BEAUTY !! I'd like one of those as a 2nd bike just for the looks !

Dallara, which range of motorbikes would this be competing with ?

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:04 am
by riceburner
I always laugh at the never-ending "race for lightness"......



it's all totally spoiled when some 18stone lard-ass gets on the bike.

Riceburner...

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:23 am
by dallara
Hey, Riceburner...

You no doubt have an excellent point... Especially when you are talking about *MY* personal "lard-ass"... :smt118

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However, don't forget unsprung weight and rotational mass... Striving for lightness in these two areas benefits the handling of the motorcycle irregardless of how heavy the rider is... There is more to the quest for lightness than just acceleration and braking. Getting the wheels to follow the ground (which is benefitted by less unsprung weight) and gyroscopic precession (which is greatly reduced by less rotational weight in thewheels) are *HUGE* factors in how a bike handles and changes direction...

Just FYI... :D

Cheers!

Dallara

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:49 am
by NoRRmad
A "Vun-two-three," huh? Cute. :D