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The launch date for the new R1200R is September, 2006? Anyone have any other info?
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Pat
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I would guess that the new R1200R will be a more expensive alternative to the F800, but it will not get the much dreamed about power of the R1200S. I don't think they want the Roadster to steal any of the thunder out from under the Sportier R1200S Boxer.....
Because it will be a heavier power-to-weight alternative to the new parallel twin, BMW is going to have to offer an incentive for traditionalists to snag the last of the naked Boxers. It will have to have some kind of timeless appeal, but power enough to court those who are looking hard at the new belt driven Rotax.
The R1200R will have to market itself as that which so many of us have made it..... a capable canyon carver, that can easily be switched to a weekend warrior or a cross-country tourer. It's going to have to be touted as a comfortable (heavy) bike, good for going the distance without all the drama of a light-weight sportier bike.
Rumor of a naked version of the F800 putting 90 hp to the ground, will create quite a distraction. BMW has gonna hafta do something pretty special to it's Roadster 1200 to keep those loyal to the Boxer......
Because it will be a heavier power-to-weight alternative to the new parallel twin, BMW is going to have to offer an incentive for traditionalists to snag the last of the naked Boxers. It will have to have some kind of timeless appeal, but power enough to court those who are looking hard at the new belt driven Rotax.
The R1200R will have to market itself as that which so many of us have made it..... a capable canyon carver, that can easily be switched to a weekend warrior or a cross-country tourer. It's going to have to be touted as a comfortable (heavy) bike, good for going the distance without all the drama of a light-weight sportier bike.
Rumor of a naked version of the F800 putting 90 hp to the ground, will create quite a distraction. BMW has gonna hafta do something pretty special to it's Roadster 1200 to keep those loyal to the Boxer......
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R1200R
Pat,
It's interesting that you said that about a supposed R1200R. I was at the BMW dealership this past weekend and rode a 1200RT. Now that I'm in Arizona the riding is more highway and I've been commuting to work on my R. Seat is too hard and the RT would make a better bike for that trip.
Anyhow I rode the RT and it's a real nice ride. Broad range of power, smoother and less vibration than my 1150R. One comment I made to the dealer (he asked for my opinion) was that I thought the new engine had less personality than my 1150. I haven't ridden a GS but the new engine was too quiet, no intake sounds that I could detect that I really like from my 1150. Pretty vanilla even though it went like hell. Maybe that's a good thing but I do like the growl that comes on when I open up the throttle on my R.
I asked him about a new 1200R and the sales guy made a curious comment about how much money BMW had invested in the new 120O hex head and also how much they already had in the 1150 engine. I got to thinking that maybe BMW might not be that quick in jumping into a 1200R. Maybe they will continue to produce the 1150R as it is as an "entry" level bike. But what do I know. Maybe there's one rolling off the line as I write.
Bud
It's interesting that you said that about a supposed R1200R. I was at the BMW dealership this past weekend and rode a 1200RT. Now that I'm in Arizona the riding is more highway and I've been commuting to work on my R. Seat is too hard and the RT would make a better bike for that trip.
Anyhow I rode the RT and it's a real nice ride. Broad range of power, smoother and less vibration than my 1150R. One comment I made to the dealer (he asked for my opinion) was that I thought the new engine had less personality than my 1150. I haven't ridden a GS but the new engine was too quiet, no intake sounds that I could detect that I really like from my 1150. Pretty vanilla even though it went like hell. Maybe that's a good thing but I do like the growl that comes on when I open up the throttle on my R.
I asked him about a new 1200R and the sales guy made a curious comment about how much money BMW had invested in the new 120O hex head and also how much they already had in the 1150 engine. I got to thinking that maybe BMW might not be that quick in jumping into a 1200R. Maybe they will continue to produce the 1150R as it is as an "entry" level bike. But what do I know. Maybe there's one rolling off the line as I write.
Bud
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I had my R down at the dealer this past Wednessday for its annual and asked the lead salesperson about the 1200R. Without even thinking about it, she told me that it will be out late this year, that the next bike to be put out is the R1200S. Once that is out and rolling, then the 1200R will be out. She said that the BMW rep told her it should be out late fall. She had no idea what it would look like, but she had no doubt that it is coming.
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Tell you the truth, I hope the looks are changed very little, if at all. It's such a pretty look, so distinctive and Sooo versatile.
I just passed my first year anniversary with my '50R and I'm still loving it more and more every day and every ride.
I think when the time comes to get a new bike, I'll just be adding one to the stable, cause I can't see letting go of this one.
I just passed my first year anniversary with my '50R and I'm still loving it more and more every day and every ride.
I think when the time comes to get a new bike, I'll just be adding one to the stable, cause I can't see letting go of this one.
Oops, Forgot to sign in.Anonymous wrote:Tell you the truth, I hope the looks are changed very little, if at all. It's such a pretty look, so distinctive and Sooo versatile.
I just passed my first year anniversary with my '50R and I'm still loving it more and more every day and every ride.
I think when the time comes to get a new bike, I'll just be adding one to the stable, cause I can't see letting go of this one.
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'06 Silver R1200RT
'04 Titan Silver R50R (3/05-9/10 was a good friend - RIP)
'06 Silver R1200RT
'04 Titan Silver R50R (3/05-9/10 was a good friend - RIP)
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These photo mockups SOO make me laugh.lacrimosa wrote:These pic has been posted on some european forums...
Looking good!...
Rockster cowl and clocks, and Telelever
R1150R oil cooler cover,
R1200GS engine block and visible subframe
F800S exhaust (I think)
K1200R rear wheel
R1200ST mudguard (I think)
I've given up looking at these wishful thinking mock-ups.
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I believe you when you say they are photoshop jobs (I certainly am not experienced enough to know the diffference), but I just don't get it. Why do people go to all the trouble to photoshop a bike by adding parts from all other kinds of bikes just to produce a fake? Really? What advantage is there in them doing that? Or what are they gaining?
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