Oil Filters

[towerworker]

Not to hijack or change thread direction I feel compelled to say (after checking out your station) I have always loved and is my primary source of news---NPR.

Wayne

[kantuckid]

Not to cause or make an argument,BUT, other than programs like Science Friday on NPR or the Bluegrass music that is on often in my area,or some other shows produced locally, it can be a political issue to say one loves/likes NPR as it is decidedly liberal which in fact kills this thread if I go further.FWIW,no, I am not a liberal nor a conservative, but claim to be an independent/occasional libertarian!
Back to filters: you can use them and cut them up all you want, but the filtration ability cannot be measured via hacksaw analysis.Personally I use the Mobil 1( from autozone or advance) but can also tell you that the Fram are not all the same as the 6063 is usually a special order filter and has better construction features than the common store Fram filters,BUT, I don't have a clue if they filter better.I got into this filter thing a while back and was reading about the Amsoil filters and their "nano technology" and via google I found that nano technology filters dated to WWII need for a filter that could be made from available materials @ the time, might be good but not such a new idea. It seems to me that unless you want to spend money on oil analysis , the average joe isn't going to beat regular oil changes with most filters out there.I just sold a bike that the guy changed the oil every fall so it would sit in his garage with new oil in the sump over the winter, now I fail to see the point of that either.I can see changing the oil when its time is due, but overchanging doesn't seem like a conserving sort of Al Gorish thing to do-i.e., not being green! This same subject gets occasional play on the MOA forum and heads the same direction each time.People dising Fram and only buying OEM and is the Mann the same and so on down the line.I have been using a much longer Fram on my Tundra(lots of room/cost about the same ) and now I've got an engineer over there(MOA site) that says it affects the oil pressure and supply to my engine? I don't see how but am waiting his answer.

[jm1515]

The OEM filter is a high-quality affair and since oil changes are not all that frequent an occurance, I've stuck with the factory filters. You can get the OEM Mahle OC91 OEM filters (11 42 1 460 845) from these guys for about $10.50 each:
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/se ... =8&I1.y=13

I haven't ordered anything from them and so don't know how quickly they ship or what they charge for S&H. Perhaps someone else can speak from experience on this?

Charlie

Well....update on my post above...
I ordered 4 OC91s $10.50ea from Turner this past Sunday afternoon. Lately, I had been using, and been happy w/ the $9.99 Mobil1, but had used the OE Mahle exclusively up until 1 month before my warrantee ended last May.
Turner shipped them Tues ($8 shipping, no tax...), and according to my UPS tracking info I should have them tomorrow...
$50 online vs >$72 from my dealer for the filter I really want....

[jeepinbanditrider]

I can get the Supertech at Wal-Mart for 3.20. And I change my oil every 3k unless I do Oil Analysis and find that I can extend that interval safely.

People stay away from Fram generally because they feel that Fram exercises sub-standard building practices on their M/C filters. Cardboard encaps, crappy glue ect.

http://maximum-suzuki.com/html/reviews/ ... lters.html

From what I've read on the intarwebz (take it with a grain of salt) The Supretech filters are manuf. by the same people in Korea that now manuf. STP filters.

My Ion Redline uses a cartridge type filter that goes into the block and I use the Supetech. The filter media looks very well made.

Just for fun, the next time you change oil, take a hacksaw and cut that Supertech down the middle (It won't take long) I know that is not a diagnose as to how good the filter is, but I can almost guarantee you will not use one again, it is almost funny, Den

The filter that I use on my Ion Redline is a cartridge type filter not a spin on canister type. I can tell no noticeable difference in construction between it and the ACDelco filter. I'll chop it in half when I remove it next time on the bike and check out the internals.

[bransan]

Not to hijack or change thread direction I feel compelled to say (after checking out your station) I have always loved and is my primary source of news---NPR.

Wayne

We are an independent radio station, NOT mpr or npr, although we do buy syndicated feeds. We a unique radio service. Tune in periodically, and hear for yourselves.

Thanks again for all the replies.

iowabeakster, Your welcome anytime, We'll have a room ready!
P.S. The panfishing is awesome right now, lot's of ice yet, and the rivers are open.

[iowabeakster]

Bransan,

Boy, I'd love to take you up on the offer. I haven't been fishing (except lousy local fishing) since we opened our store 4+ years ago. I haven't made it way up north in just as long. Man do I miss it.

I really need a week in the Boundry Waters Canoe Area to set my soul right.

[jerrygriffies]

P.S. The panfishing is awesome right now, lot's of ice yet, and the rivers are open.

I love your part of the country. I was up last summer canoeing in Boundry Waters. I just got my R-bike and that might be a nice road trip for this summer too.

I have some pals with a canoe shop in Mt. Iron.

Hmmm...gots me thinking...jg

[challey]

Sorry but I'm hijacking this thread back to the original subject.

j m said:

Well....update on my post above...
I ordered 4 OC91s $10.50ea from Turner this past Sunday afternoon. Lately, I had been using, and been happy w/ the $9.99 Mobil1, but had used the OE Mahle exclusively up until 1 month before my warrantee ended last May.
Turner shipped them Tues ($8 shipping, no tax...), and according to my UPS tracking info I should have them tomorrow...
$50 online vs >$72 from my dealer for the filter I really want....

Sounds like the experience with Turner was positive. What about crush washers - are you reusing or were you also able to order these?

Charlie

[rdsmith3]

The problem with ordering BMW filters via the internet is that it makes it real tough to change oil on an impulse. Yes, you can buy a bunch of them, but with longer change intervals for synthetic oil, it means they are sitting in the garage for a long time.

[kantuckid]

I save enough on the Mann filters I buy in sets of 6 to pay for the first three-money in the bank! When I'm gone somebody can have one heck of an auction for all the "stuff" that is left behind, meanwhile it pays to save. I ask, if you ride/drive to buy one filter what sort of economy does that represent? I live many miles from the source for most things bike related, yet the computer/telephone lets me source much of whats out there. Yes, some stuff that lies around makes no sense, but filters get used up fairly often even on extended changes, so go figure...

[jm1515]

Sorry but I'm hijacking this thread back to the original subject.

j m said:

Well....update on my post above...
I ordered 4 OC91s $10.50ea from Turner this past Sunday afternoon. Lately, I had been using, and been happy w/ the $9.99 Mobil1, but had used the OE Mahle exclusively up until 1 month before my warrantee ended last May.
Turner shipped them Tues ($8 shipping, no tax...), and according to my UPS tracking info I should have them tomorrow...
$50 online vs >$72 from my dealer for the filter I really want....

Sounds like the experience with Turner was positive. What about crush washers - are you reusing or were you also able to order these?

Charlie

A very positive experience...got them in 4 days.
But now I have worry about them going stale, I guess..........
As you suspect, they don't come w/ the crush washers...that's what the ~$7 Dealer premium is for...
I re-use the crush washers most of the time anyway, but you can find them by Oil-Tite in all the sizes we need @ PepBoys or even AdvanceAuto....

[Daryl_stamp]

Mnnden; Northern MIN is close enough to Aerostitch to just ride up & see what's on sale isn't it? Do you ride w/ Garrison Keilor? I've lived in NY most of my life; always liked listening to him when I could tune in.

Beemerboneyard.com has a pretty good deal on filters, oil, crush rings etc.; I used to get my stuff from the dealer, felt like I was in some small way thanking them for being in the area, got smart w/ the guys @ the Boneyard and have been saving some $. It's nice to be able to order something online, get it a few days later and not have to detour for supplies.

DLS

[bransan]

Mnnden; Northern MIN is close enough to Aerostitch to just ride up & see what's on sale isn't it? Do you ride w/ Garrison Keilor? I've lived in NY most of my life; always liked listening to him when I could tune in.

Beemerboneyard.com has a pretty good deal on filters, oil, crush rings etc.; I used to get my stuff from the dealer, felt like I was in some small way thanking them for being in the area, got smart w/ the guys @ the Boneyard and have been saving some $. It's nice to be able to order something online, get it a few days later and not have to detour for supplies.

DLS

Yeah, Garrison and I are great friends. We chum around and eat powdermilk biscuits, talk about fishing , and wish We could be ridin'.

Aerostich is over rated,(imo) I have shopped there for a few items. Duluth is 3.5 hrs from My place.

I made it point to ride to Moon motorsports and get a couple filters last weekend. I would still like to just buy them from Napa.

[Hawk]

I use the Purolator PL10241 and order them from Amazon for $7.58 per two. Order a total of $25 and get free shipping...you can get a book DVD or CD or whatever to make up the $25. I just ordered four of the two packs to get my free shipping.

[Hawk]

Forgot to mention I checked Amazon today and they are in stock, ready to ship. Search on PL10241 and they pop right up.