Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
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Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
I've had air bleed back problems with Speed Bleeders when the
sealant on the threads doesn't completely seal and air gets sucked
back in.
Was poking around, found these
http://www.holley.com/EarlsCatalog/Cata ... eNumber=88
Anybody ever tried them?
Available here
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Bran ... toview=SKU
And of course at Amazon where shipping may be less.
Also this setup, but you could have bleedback with this, too
http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16343
sealant on the threads doesn't completely seal and air gets sucked
back in.
Was poking around, found these
http://www.holley.com/EarlsCatalog/Cata ... eNumber=88
Anybody ever tried them?
Available here
http://www.summitracing.com/search/Bran ... toview=SKU
And of course at Amazon where shipping may be less.
Also this setup, but you could have bleedback with this, too
http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16343
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Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
Have to admit, I still find it easier to just use a piece of tubing.....
although I have found a new trick of using a large syringe and piece of tubing to push fluid in from the calliper, and then push it up the lines.
Also, recently used the trick of taking the caliper off the forks, removing the pads, pumping the pistons out, then loosening the bleed valve and pushing the pistons back in - worked pretty well on my totally rebuilt Tokicos (all new seals, including the internal ones), and then finished up by bleeding the m/c banjo bolt. 2 finger stoppies, tops!
although I have found a new trick of using a large syringe and piece of tubing to push fluid in from the calliper, and then push it up the lines.
Also, recently used the trick of taking the caliper off the forks, removing the pads, pumping the pistons out, then loosening the bleed valve and pushing the pistons back in - worked pretty well on my totally rebuilt Tokicos (all new seals, including the internal ones), and then finished up by bleeding the m/c banjo bolt. 2 finger stoppies, tops!
Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
Yes, that's what I reverted to after having problems with the speed bleeders,
but it's getting to be a PITA to run the brake lever with one hand and the wrench
to loosen / tighten the standard bleeders with the other.
At my age, I don't bend in the middle as easily as I used to, plus the bad knees
and back make those kinds of gymnastics painful and difficult.
I used the syringe thing on my clutch which worked OK, but when the speed bleeders
DID work, that was considerably simpler than any other method incl vac guns etc etc.
but it's getting to be a PITA to run the brake lever with one hand and the wrench
to loosen / tighten the standard bleeders with the other.
At my age, I don't bend in the middle as easily as I used to, plus the bad knees
and back make those kinds of gymnastics painful and difficult.
I used the syringe thing on my clutch which worked OK, but when the speed bleeders
DID work, that was considerably simpler than any other method incl vac guns etc etc.
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Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
Have to admit, I've NEVER done the clutch fluid, but it's never seemed to have needed it! 
Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
You might want to reconsider about your clutch fluid.
That system takes at least as much if not more abuse than the brakes.
AFAIK, it's highly recommended to replace that fluid each year.
That system takes at least as much if not more abuse than the brakes.
AFAIK, it's highly recommended to replace that fluid each year.
Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
By the time I got just the tiniest hint (slightly different action at the lever) that something was not quite right it was too late.Have to admit, I've NEVER done the clutch fluid, but it's never seemed to have needed it!
Hello new clutch, goodbye $1300
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Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
It is more like, hello new slave cylinder, goodbye $149.00 plus 3 hours labor.garr2 wrote:By the time I got just the tiniest hint (slightly different action at the lever) that something was not quite right it was too late.Have to admit, I've NEVER done the clutch fluid, but it's never seemed to have needed it!
Hello new clutch, goodbye $1300
Do not bleed the clutch in the rain.
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Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
Methinks there's a bunch of zumba goin on there!
But - what's the point?
If you're just trying advertise your stupidity -
WELL DONE!!
But - what's the point?
If you're just trying advertise your stupidity -
WELL DONE!!
Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
I wrote

TicTac50 repliedBy the time I got just the tiniest hint (slightly different action at the lever) that something was not quite right it was too late.
Hello new clutch, goodbye $1300
I was hoping no-one would say that!It is more like, hello new slave cylinder, goodbye $149.00 plus 3 hours labor.
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Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
You can get new oem slave cyl's at Beemer Boneyard for $100.
And they're really not all that hard to install.
You don't really have to move as much stuff out of the way as the
manual says, esp if you have ball end allen wrenches.
PUt the bike on the center stand, remove the wheel, and the slave
is accessible. I don't remember but don't think there's much else
you have to move - maybe unbolt the lower end of the shock?
Don't get all excited about torquing the bolts, just snug them up good,
but don't get carried away and overtighten - you wouldn't want to strip one out!
And they're really not all that hard to install.
You don't really have to move as much stuff out of the way as the
manual says, esp if you have ball end allen wrenches.
PUt the bike on the center stand, remove the wheel, and the slave
is accessible. I don't remember but don't think there's much else
you have to move - maybe unbolt the lower end of the shock?
Don't get all excited about torquing the bolts, just snug them up good,
but don't get carried away and overtighten - you wouldn't want to strip one out!
Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
i just bought these for the brake job
http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_bcbe.asp#MV6835
hope it will work on bikes too
http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_bcbe.asp#MV6835
hope it will work on bikes too
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Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
I recently had trouble bleeding the front brakes on my non-ABS system. I had a wee bit of pressure but not quite enough. No matter how much fluid I pumped though the system using the jar and tube method I couldn't get any improvement.
So before retiring indoors for food and beers I put the bike on the side stand and turned the bars so that the master cylinder was at its highest point. I then pulled the lever back to the bars and cable tied it in place and left it over night. Next morning I cut the cable tie and released the brakes, when I pulled the lever back I had full pressure as the air had worked it's way up throught the system.
Hank.
So before retiring indoors for food and beers I put the bike on the side stand and turned the bars so that the master cylinder was at its highest point. I then pulled the lever back to the bars and cable tied it in place and left it over night. Next morning I cut the cable tie and released the brakes, when I pulled the lever back I had full pressure as the air had worked it's way up throught the system.
Hank.
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Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
hank wrote:I recently had trouble bleeding the front brakes on my non-ABS system. I had a wee bit of pressure but not quite enough. No matter how much fluid I pumped though the system using the jar and tube method I couldn't get any improvement.
So before retiring indoors for food and beers I put the bike on the side stand and turned the bars so that the master cylinder was at its highest point. I then pulled the lever back to the bars and cable tied it in place and left it over night. Next morning I cut the cable tie and released the brakes, when I pulled the lever back I had full pressure as the air had worked it's way up throught the system.
Hank.
that's the BEST way to air bleed!!!! with food and beers too!!!!!! thx for the tip
Re: Better brake bleeders than Speed Bleeders
No problem here with speed bleeders.Hardest thing of whole process is preserving the paint from fluid on various surfaces! BMW says every 2 years on the fluid because of hygroscopic action. Cheaper to follow that than not. Clutch spline lube is less often.