Has any of these happened to you?
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My warranty runs out the beginning of April. So of course the gremlins are starting to appear. My pinion seal has seepage, the starter makes a noise (sounds almost like the noise you get if hitting the starter while the bike is running) right after the bike has been started when cold and when there’s moisture in the air, the right turn signals go into warp blinking mode. The dealer has looked at these problems and besides the seepage, couldn’t replicate, thus couldn’t fix the noise nor turn signals. The bike has a little over 28k miles on it. Any of this stuff sound familiar? If so, suggestions would be appreciated.
Rob
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My 1100S does the same thing with the starter, both signals go into warp mode, similar to if you install LEDs without a resistor, and back to normal, and the pinion seal was just replaced for the second time. The bike has 23,000 miles and I just hit the 3 year mark in January. The signals couldn't be figured out, and the starter I forgot to mention when it was in for service. All in all, I must say that for 3 years/23,000 miles I haven't had many issues at all. I just wish I could get my tires to last a bit longer.
Issues...
I'm taking my Rockster in for 12000 mile servicing tomorrow... I'll also tell them that I have an issue with pitting/corrosion on the front fork legs... paints bubbling and chipping off. I'm hoping I'll be able to get it repaired under warranty, as I heard of others having the same problem getting it fixed. Wish me luck...
t.
t.
Re: Issues...
Toner,toner87 wrote:I'm taking my Rockster in for 12000 mile servicing tomorrow... I'll also tell them that I have an issue with pitting/corrosion on the front fork legs... paints bubbling and chipping off. I'm hoping I'll be able to get it repaired under warranty, as I heard of others having the same problem getting it fixed. Wish me luck...
t.
Let us know what they say (think we use the same dealer)...and I'm very curious because I also have some bubbling paint issues.
Thanks!
Fork corrosion
I'm in discussion with my dealer on the topic of fork corrosion.
I believe that so many people are having this problem, that it is definately a warranty issue. The coatings and finishes used are just not upto the job. I have seen many very well looked after bikes only a year old with less than 5000 miles on and corrosion starting to appear.
Once the corroision starts theres no stopping it.
If this was happening on BMW cars, there would be a huge press campaign about it, and I'm sure sales would be greatly effected.
The sale of goods act (UK) states that goods must be fit for the purpose for which they are intended. Owners do not spend £8000 on a new bike and then deliberately neglect it. Most care and polish their motorcycles and keep them undercover. I believe that the goods are not fit for the purpose they were intended. I'm sure that BMW did not intend the bikes to be only ridden in bone dry weather, and you should not have to wash dry and polish your bike everytime it rains.
I also have a 1997 Mercedes C250td. It rarely gets a wash, never a polish and sits outside everyday of the year in all weathers. It's 9 years old and has 179,000 miles on the clock and No Corrosion Anywhere.
I'll post what happens with the BMW Warranty as soon as I hear.
It would be a good idea to start a thread of what people have had replaced or done under warranty, as it would help other owners argue there case with the dealers, if others have had the same done under warranty.
Thanks all for listening.
I believe that so many people are having this problem, that it is definately a warranty issue. The coatings and finishes used are just not upto the job. I have seen many very well looked after bikes only a year old with less than 5000 miles on and corrosion starting to appear.
Once the corroision starts theres no stopping it.
If this was happening on BMW cars, there would be a huge press campaign about it, and I'm sure sales would be greatly effected.
The sale of goods act (UK) states that goods must be fit for the purpose for which they are intended. Owners do not spend £8000 on a new bike and then deliberately neglect it. Most care and polish their motorcycles and keep them undercover. I believe that the goods are not fit for the purpose they were intended. I'm sure that BMW did not intend the bikes to be only ridden in bone dry weather, and you should not have to wash dry and polish your bike everytime it rains.
I also have a 1997 Mercedes C250td. It rarely gets a wash, never a polish and sits outside everyday of the year in all weathers. It's 9 years old and has 179,000 miles on the clock and No Corrosion Anywhere.
I'll post what happens with the BMW Warranty as soon as I hear.
It would be a good idea to start a thread of what people have had replaced or done under warranty, as it would help other owners argue there case with the dealers, if others have had the same done under warranty.
Thanks all for listening.
BSTWAY-My starter has been doing the same thing. I have 46K on mine.
Funny thing though. The starter began that noise right after I replaced the cam chain tensioner. I thought for the first couple of times that it was the new tensioner building up pressure or something. I don't know if there's a correlation or just a coincidence, but what you described is exactly the sound I get at cold start-up.
Funny thing though. The starter began that noise right after I replaced the cam chain tensioner. I thought for the first couple of times that it was the new tensioner building up pressure or something. I don't know if there's a correlation or just a coincidence, but what you described is exactly the sound I get at cold start-up.
My pinion seal has been replaced, but I think I was slightly overfilling the final drive with oil when I changed it. Either way, it's not leaking now.
I noticed my starter making an odd noise during the last blast of really cold weather about a month ago. It seemed like it wasn't disengaging as quickly when the bike started and I let go of the button. Warmer weather seemed to make it disappear, but we're due for another cold blast next week so I'll see if it is temperature related.
Haven't noticed warp speed turn signals but if they do, I hope the rest of the bike is also moving at warp speed.
I noticed my starter making an odd noise during the last blast of really cold weather about a month ago. It seemed like it wasn't disengaging as quickly when the bike started and I let go of the button. Warmer weather seemed to make it disappear, but we're due for another cold blast next week so I'll see if it is temperature related.
Haven't noticed warp speed turn signals but if they do, I hope the rest of the bike is also moving at warp speed.
John
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'17 Triumph Tiger 1200 XRX
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I don’t know if this applicable or not, but a couple of months ago, I took advantage of an above-freezing Sunday afternoon to do a quick wash and wax on my Roadster. Cold-snap that night, with temperatures in the mid-teens on Monday AM. Uncovered the bike, hopped aboard and began start sequence. Hit the starter button, and to my horror the starter would not disengage! What a hideous sound to hear first thing in the morning. Seems a small amount of water frosted up the starter switch and it would not release.R4R&R wrote:My pinion seal has been replaced, but I think I was slightly overfilling the final drive with oil when I changed it. Either way, it's not leaking now.
I noticed my starter making an odd noise during the last blast of really cold weather about a month ago. It seemed like it wasn't disengaging as quickly when the bike started and I let go of the button. Warmer weather seemed to make it disappear, but we're due for another cold blast next week so I'll see if it is temperature related.
Haven't noticed warp speed turn signals but if they do, I hope the rest of the bike is also moving at warp speed.
Well, the service manager at SF BMW did not seem hopeful that BMW would replace my fork tubes, due to the age of the bike. The bike was manufactured in 2003... He said he'd contact BMW and see what they say about it... Actually, I'm a dumb ass, as I noticed this over a year ago and should have taken it in imediately and just kept putting it off and off and off...
I'll let you all know what happens. On another note, the weather in San Francisco is absolutely, f-ing perfect!
T.
I'll let you all know what happens. On another note, the weather in San Francisco is absolutely, f-ing perfect!
T.
Regarding the starter noise:
http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/
First, I don't know if BMW still uses this starter. Regardless, servicing the plunger and pinion splines might help.
http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/
First, I don't know if BMW still uses this starter. Regardless, servicing the plunger and pinion splines might help.
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I actually already have a copy of the starter overhaul I found on the Internet and plan on using it as a talking point with the dealer. Some sort of starter servicing appears to be in order and this is my last chance to get it done without $$$ outlay. I plan on leaving the bike overnight so they won’t have the excuse of not being able to replicate the problem. It seems this problem might be an issue in the future so it won’t hurt to know how to service the starter myself. Thanks. No matter what starts happening to my roadster, I’m not getting that 1200GS I test rode (keep telling myself that, keep telling…)!
Rob
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The paint issue is a known one and there's not a lot to prevent it - here's why :
In order to comply with certain EU, or possibly just Germanic Health and Safety laws, BMW are not allowed to use robust 2-pack paint in their factories any more (without seriously expensive venting systems). So on some parts - eg motorcycle parts they use a less dangerous water-based paint.
Obviously for the cars the financial outlay for the better quality paint is going to be more recoverably and so they pay out. For the bike's it's not financially as sound.
BMW SHOULD replace the parts under warranty - just make sure your dealer goes to bat against BMW for you - remember it's you and the Dealer versus BMW, not you versus the Dealer and BMW - so don't chew out your dealer.
I had it done on my Rockster and will probably attempt to have it done on any 2nd hand bike I buy that is still within warranty, simply because I do so many miles (last bike did over 42000 in 21 months) that it's worth having the bike in the best condition possible at purchase.
In order to comply with certain EU, or possibly just Germanic Health and Safety laws, BMW are not allowed to use robust 2-pack paint in their factories any more (without seriously expensive venting systems). So on some parts - eg motorcycle parts they use a less dangerous water-based paint.
Obviously for the cars the financial outlay for the better quality paint is going to be more recoverably and so they pay out. For the bike's it's not financially as sound.
BMW SHOULD replace the parts under warranty - just make sure your dealer goes to bat against BMW for you - remember it's you and the Dealer versus BMW, not you versus the Dealer and BMW - so don't chew out your dealer.
I had it done on my Rockster and will probably attempt to have it done on any 2nd hand bike I buy that is still within warranty, simply because I do so many miles (last bike did over 42000 in 21 months) that it's worth having the bike in the best condition possible at purchase.